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Some form of official launch today.

 

Draw is 24th January. EURO play offs are one leg only, highest finishers at home in the semis, final is a draw for venue. Also the uncertainty about how the play off slots are filled when teams have already qualified has been cleared up.

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http://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/news/newsid=2501767.html#/

 

 


 

Qualifying for UEFA EURO 2020

Qualifying for UEFA EURO 2020 remains largely the same (with 24 finalists in all), although the European Qualifiers will now begin in the March after a major tournament instead of immediately in September (i.e. March 2019 in this case). No team will gain auomatic qualification as hosts (there are 13 host nations in all).

Qualifying group stage (20 teams qualify)
The teams will be split into ten groups of five or six, and the top two from each group will qualify for the final tournament, determining the first 20 places.

Play-offs (4 teams qualify)
The last four EURO places will be won through the European Qualifiers play-offs, which will be contested by the 16 UEFA Nations League group winners (i.e. the four group winners in each of the four divisions).

  • Each league will have a path of its own and each path will feature two single-leg semi-finals and one single-leg final. The winner of each path will win a ticket to UEFA EURO 2020

  • If a UEFA Nations League group winner has already qualified via the European Qualifiers, then their spot will go to the next best-ranked team in their league. If a league does not have four teams to compete, the remaining slots are allocated to teams from another league, according to the overall UEFA Nations League rankings.

 

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Qualification process isn't that different from before. 10 groups, top 2 qualify. The difference is how we get the 4 teams from a playoff. Instead of 3rd place teams getting play off spots they revert back to the teams that did best in Nations League. The only real twist comes from there being 4 separate paths in play offs. Just means there'll be one crap team in finals.

 

There will be 16 teams in the play offs instead of 8 and you'll still be playing teams of a similar standard so the play offs will be hard to get through. 4 from each division play 'one off' semi and final. If there's less than 4 teams who haven't qualified from a division then one from division below gets the playoff spot.

 

The actual Nations League is relatively simple, you get drawn into group of 3 teams from your division. You play home and away and winner of mini group get promoted to higher division (and has guaranteed play off spot, if required) the 2nd team remains in the division and the 3rd is relegated. And in theory this repeated in 4 years with everyone in their new divisions.

 

See, it's really very simple!

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Just an update here. Northern Ireland are in League B as expected. the Republic have also qualified for League B.

 

My understanding of the draw is that the 12 teams in League B will be seeded based on this month's UEFA ranking. So 3 pots of 4 countries.

 

NI are currently 20th in the UEFA rankings but will drop to 21st if Bosnia win or draw with Estonia tonight. The Republic will most likely finish in 19th.

 

Thus if Bosnia win or draw there is a 1 in 4 chance of NI & RoI being in the same Nations League group next Autumn. If Bosnia lose then we cannot meet.

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Am in Tallinn at the minute after leaving sunny Oslo. It's been pi**ing down for 2 days so hopefully the pitch can take a soaking. Are a few Bosnians about - very quiet compared to GAWA in Oslo. Saw some go into an Irish bar but probably just drenched and keeping out of the rain.

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Just an update here. Northern Ireland are in League B as expected. the Republic have also qualified for League B.

 

My understanding of the draw is that the 12 teams in League B will be seeded based on this month's UEFA ranking. So 3 pots of 4 countries.

 

NI are currently 20th in the UEFA rankings but will drop to 21st if Bosnia win or draw with Estonia tonight. The Republic will most likely finish in 19th.

 

Thus if Bosnia win or draw there is a 1 in 4 chance of NI & RoI being in the same Nations League group next Autumn. If Bosnia lose then we cannot meet.

Still confused about this!

 

Are you saying that the leagues are based on where uefa teams are placed in the FIFA rankings, with the teams ranked 13-24 in league B? Therefore the teams ranked 13-16 will form one league B division and so on up to 21-24?

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Are you saying that the leagues are based on where uefa teams are placed in the FIFA* rankings, with the teams ranked 13-24 in league B? Therefore the teams ranked 13-16 will form one league B division and so on up to 21-24?

Don't think so.

 

UEFA's "All You Need To Know" guide says: "The League Phase Draw for the UEFA Nations League will take place at the SwissTech Convention Centre in Lausanne on 24 January 2018."

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/news/newsid=2079553.html

 

And as of 08 October, UEFA's website says: "All draw procedures to be confirmed.". The website also says: "Note that Russia and Ukraine can be in the same League, but would not be drawn into the same group. The same applies to Armenia and Azerbaijan if the current UEFA Executive Committee decisions still apply when the draw is made."

https://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/news/newsid=2498274.html#/

 

That suggests to me that the UEFA rankings will determine the teams which comprise each League (of 12, 12, 15 and 16 teams), but thereafter the three or four team Groups will be decided by drawing out of the hat.

 

 

Btw, when you say: "... based on where UEFA teams are placed in the FIFA rankings" I assume you mean the UEFA* rankings:

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/02/50/81/28/2508128_DOWNLOAD.pdf

 

 

 

* - Different from FIFA's, which are used for World Cups.

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Just an update here. Northern Ireland are in League B as expected. the Republic have also qualified for League B.

 

My understanding of the draw is that the 12 teams in League B will be seeded based on this month's UEFA ranking. So 3 pots of 4 countries.

 

NI are currently 20th in the UEFA rankings but will drop to 21st if Bosnia win or draw with Estonia tonight. The Republic will most likely finish in 19th.

 

Thus if Bosnia win or draw there is a 1 in 4 chance of NI & RoI being in the same Nations League group next Autumn. If Bosnia lose then we cannot meet.

Above from Gary, messed up trying to edit a typo :doh:

 

Yes, Bosnia overtake and we are in pot 3.

 

Pot 1

Austria

Wales

Russia

Slovakia

 

Pot 2

Sweden

Ukraine

RoI

Bosnia

 

25% chance of RoI

50% chance of either one of Russia and Ukraine as they are kept apart.

 

Finishing 1st or 2nd gets seeding pot 2 for the EURO2020 qualifying draw. 1st promoted to League A, 3rd relegated to League B. Finishing position also determines the play off ranking for those teams who do not qualify for the EUROs.

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So, best case geographically is Bales and RoI, wost case geographically is Russia and Bosnia, most attractive to me would be Austria and Sweden.

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I understand the 4 groups of 3 and promotions and relegations but there was 24 teams at the last Euro finals. Is this still the case or what? Does this still end in a tournament?

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I understand the 4 groups of 3 and promotions and relegations but there was 24 teams at the last Euro finals. Is this still the case or what? Does this still end in a tournament?

 

No tournament apart from the 4 winners of the League A mini leagues meeting in June 2019.

 

Separate qualification for Euro2020. ten groups of 5 or 6 teams but seedings based on Nations League rankings. If NI finish 1st or 2nd in minigroup then 2nd seeds for qualification. 3rd place will mean a 3rd seeding and relegation to League C.

 

Last chance saloon then March 26th-31st 2020. Best 4 teams in League B that failed to qualify for Euro2020 get a playoff. In reality it is unlikely 8 countries in League A and B will miss out so worst case keep late March 2020 free for playoffs.

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