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Bosnia. And Herzegovina too. What are they like?

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They've just drawn 0-0 with USA in a friendly in California. Both teams were weakened by the non-availability of their European-based "big" players. Oh and Bosnia missed a penalty kick.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/01/28/usa-bosnia-herzegovina-friendly-live-usmnt-video-goals-morris-sapong-agudelo

That's about as interesting as it gets, so I'll leave you with a picture of Eva Herzigova, who may be related. OK, probably not.

Eva_Herzigova_yearawar5.jpg

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The Bosnia Herzegovina goalkeeper in horrendous, always making errors. He had about 5 matches at AFC Bournemouth in 2007 and cost us about 15 points with blunders. Brighton home and Carlisle home he was atrocious. 

Did the same again in his second spell especially v. West Ham.

So we shouldn't have any trouble scoring against them if Begovic does nets.

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Earlier today, Bosnia Herzegovina lost 1-0 to a Mexico team made up entirely of domestic or MLS players. The Bosnians had a player sent off.

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/dos-santos-starts-captains-el-tri-gonzalez-begins-on-bench/4flt5gck4hwp1b2w6fefphem0

The Mexico captain was Giovanni Dos Santos, who played 15 League games for Spurs and the new Bosnia Herzegovina manager is Robert Prosinecki, who managed Azerbaijan when we beat them twice in the last qualifiers.

Of course, I realise that that is not much more interesting than my opening post, so here is another photo of Eva Herzigova to be going on with:

 

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On 01/02/2018 at 11:53 PM, EalingGreen said:

Earlier today, Bosnia Herzegovina lost 1-0 to a Mexico team made up entirely of domestic or MLS players. The Bosnians had a player sent off.

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/dos-santos-starts-captains-el-tri-gonzalez-begins-on-bench/4flt5gck4hwp1b2w6fefphem0

The Mexico captain was Giovanni Dos Santos, who played 15 League games for Spurs and the new Bosnia Herzegovina manager is Robert Prosinecki, who managed Azerbaijan when we beat them twice in the last qualifiers.

Of course, I realise that that is not much more interesting than my opening post, so here is another photo of Eva Herzigova to be going on with:

 

c8740e37fabc255aacce738ec86df704.jpg

Like the Pics.

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Their fans look like an angry sort based on YouTube videos, anyone reckon there will be any trouble? 

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2 hours ago, PMcA said:

Their fans look like an angry based on YouTube videos, anyone reckon there will be any trouble? 

I never felt under the slightest threat in Zenica.  Their fans are noisy and passionate but didn't appear to want any trouble.

Security was very high.  Most of the Republic's fans (and Welsh) arrived by escorted bus from Sarajevo.  Now Sarajevo is a great city with loads to do there.  I hate those organsied buses but they seem to suit most people.    

 

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3 hours ago, gspain said:

I never felt under the slightest threat in Zenica.  Their fans are noisy and passionate but didn't appear to want any trouble.

Security was very high.  Most of the Republic's fans (and Welsh) arrived by escorted bus from Sarajevo.  Now Sarajevo is a great city with loads to do there.  I hate those organsied buses but they seem to suit most people.    

 

Despite the buses etc, I hope it is in Zenica's Bilino Polje stadium, capacity 17.5k:

do_utakmice_s_andorom_novi_semafor_na_bi

"A few years after the construction, the stadium was actually given the award for being the most beautiful stadium in Yugoslavia. Bilino Polje has a rectangular shape with British style dimensions, rather than an oval shape such as the Stadium Kosevo in Sarajevo, making it a somewhat unusual stadium in Bosnia-Herzegovina."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilino_Polje_Stadium

Whereas the other stadium they use, Asim Ferhatovic Hase stadium in Sarajevo, is twice as big, as well as being multi-purpose:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asim_Ferhatović_Hase_Stadium

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Still no update on the stadium and city. When is the deadline?

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Bosnia and Herzegovina have just drawn 0-0 with Montenegro in a friendly, held in the 17.5k capacity Stadion Bilino Polje (Zenica):

http://www.espn.com/soccer/match?gameId=508566

By the look of things, it may not have been the most exciting game the crowd of 5,215 have ever seen.

Meanwhile, their previous four games this year (all friendlies) were:

27 Mar Senegal 0 v 0 BIH

23 Mar Bulgaria 0 v 1 BIH

01 Feb Mexico 1 v 0 BIH

29 Jan USA 0 v 0 BIH

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Well, Bosnia-Herzetc seem to have found their shooting boots at last (or Edin Visca at least).

They've just beaten South Korea 3-1 in Korea, with a Visca hattrick:

Match Stats

Video of goals here:

And dunno if I/anyone has mentioned it before, but the Bosnia manager is Robert Prosinecki, whose last job was managing Azerbaijan in their WC campaign, when we beat them home and away.

Meanwhile, it's a while since we've had a pic of Eva Bosnia-Herzigova, so here goes:

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(She's now eligible for the "Good Life" thread, btw)

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Do Serbs from Republic Srpska play for the national team and do people from there support it?  I'd imagine they don't really recognise it as such so wondering if they have a bit of a situation like ourselves?

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2 hours ago, buckfast_kid said:

Do Serbs from Republic Srpska play for the national team and do people from there support it?  I'd imagine they don't really recognise it as such so wondering if they have a bit of a situation like ourselves?

Funny enough, I think it is a bit like our situation. As the FIFA/UEFA recognised successor to Yugoslavia, I think anyone born when* Yugoslavia existed can still represent Serbia. Therefore those who are now from Rep.Srpska can play for Serbia, like eg players from the  old USSR playing for Russia (see eg Lithuanian/Ukrainian Alexei Kanshelskis).

However, it may be that not many do/have, either because they are happy to play for BiH, and/or because they're not good enough to get regular starts for Serbia (bigger playing pool):

https://www.quora.com/Are-sportspeople-from-Republika-Srpska-more-likely-to-represent-Serbia-than-Bosnia-Herzegovina

Beyond that, Rep.Srpska do have a "national" team, which is kinda tolerated, but not fully recognised, by FIFA/UEFA, in a similar way to the Catalan team(?):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republika_Srpska_official_football_team

Interestingly, that link suggests that the domestic Rep.Srpska club League failed to get off the ground, and has become a part of the BiH set-up.

Anyhow, whatever the ins-and-outs of the Balkans conflict etc, I retain a soft spot for the old Yugoslavia team, since they were the first international team to play in Belfast after a four year break due to The Troubles in the mid-70's:

http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/968-More-than-a-match/3737-northern-ireland-1-yugoslavia-0

https://www.11v11.com/matches/northern-ireland-v-yugoslavia-16-april-1975-233174/

 

 

* - I don't know, but I suspect that anyone born in one of the new states after the break-up of Yugoslavia will not automatically be entitled to represent Serbia, but should still be able to do so via a parent or grandparent who was born in Yugoslavia? Which if true, would mean that that "loophole" will effectively be closed in another generation, meaning if you are then born eg in BiH post-breakup, that's who you will represent, unless you have a parent or grandparent who was born in Serbia or Croatia etc.  In that respect, it will be different from ROI, who will go on being able to pick NI-born players until there are further constitutional changes, such as Jimmy Carr suggests:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKwZM8TDEa0

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Interesting analysis of the current/February state of the BiH National Team:

http://futbolgrad.com/prosinecki-introducing-new-bosnia-heroes/

Three things stood out for me.

1. Like ourselves, they've lost, or will soon be losing, a few important veterans after their failed 2018 WC qualification campaign;

2. Prosinecki seems to favour a 4-2-3-1 formation, with Edin Djeko as the obvious spearhead up front. If so, I wonder whether Michael will play three at the back against them, since that formation best suits countering a team which has two* up front, not one;

3. Re Buckfast Kid's above query, it seems that BiH may no longer be able to rely on the the children/grandchildren of their huge expatriate population opting to represent their ancestral homeland, as before. However this may be made up by increasing numbers of locally-born Bosnian Serbs and Croats choosing to represent BiH, rather than their ethnic homelands.

 

 

* - Three CB's vs two strikers means you can man-mark both of them and have one left over to cover. Whereas three vs one means there's one marking and one covering CB, with the third one redundant.

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