Jump to content
OUR WEE COUNTRY
Sign in to follow this  
exhausted

Squad for Belarus and Estonia at home

Recommended Posts

Norwood missing and Ballard being included are obviously the main talking points.

It's a pity about Ollie, but if he has issues to deal with then fair enough.

Given that Hughes and McAuley probably won't be with us much longer, including Ballard is a good idea.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, Villa Mike said:

Sure Norwood does very little anyway...

I think Norwood has been generally poor since the Euros, although as a team we’re clearly not the force we were. For a dead-ball specialist he creates very little and doesn’t score. He’s a decent Championship standard bits & pieces midfielder who’s benefited from having very little competition for his position. As for “he needs a wee break”, he’s still turning out for his club so I’d be more than happy to give him a permanent break from international football. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, lisbellawloyal said:

You'd imagine Ballard will get a few minutes in one of the games to tie him down.

 

I recall Jonny Evans made his debut at age 19 against Spain before he had broken into Utd's first team. If he's good enough get him in there !!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, bazza said:

I think Norwood has been generally poor since the Euros, although as a team we’re clearly not the force we were. For a dead-ball specialist he creates very little and doesn’t score. He’s a decent Championship standard bits & pieces midfielder who’s benefited from having very little competition for his position.

He's been a bit more than that this season, with Sheff U fans appearing v.pleased with him, eg:

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/clever-ollie.70162/

2 hours ago, bazza said:

As for “he needs a wee break”, he’s still turning out for his club so I’d be more than happy to give him a permanent break from international football. 

"Permanent"? :o

The guy has 57 caps, inc as FU says, 29 of the last 30 competitive games (the other a suspension) and I can't ever remember him pulling out of the squad in suspicious circumstances before. And when his Da used to post on here, it was obvious the pride both took in his playing for NI.

And after a decade of playing for NI, you want to punish him for one withdrawal for which there may be an explanation which we don't know?

If you applied that standard to the entire squad, Michael wouldn't be able to raise a five-a-side team. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, Dreadnought said:

I recall Jonny Evans made his debut at age 19 against Spain before he had broken into Utd's first team.

Yeah, but he was actually picked at LB, presumably because we had no-one else.

57 minutes ago, Dreadnought said:

If he's good enough get him in there !!

I'm pleased to see Ballard in the squad, it shows just how long-term Michael's thinking is. But with Cathcart and Evans, there's no need actually to pick him this time around. And something I read on another forum suggested his Ma/family are v.much Norn Iron fans, so I don't think we need to tie him down, either.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I see Conor Hazard was playing for Partick last night. Good to see one of our keepers getting some game time!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, leo said:

I see Conor Hazard was playing for Partick last night. Good to see one of our keepers getting some game time!

he has been a regular since his move, only 1 of our 4 keepers getting any game time unfortunately

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can Ballard play right back in years to come? there isn't much competition at the moment. 

However If we play 3 at the back with 2 wing backs which perhaps suits our squad better it's a struggle to find a 3 cb to play. Hughes and mcauley are finished. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, donaghy said:

Can Ballard play right back in years to come? there isn't much competition at the moment. 

However If we play 3 at the back with 2 wing backs which perhaps suits our squad better it's a struggle to find a 3 cb to play. Hughes and mcauley are finished. 

I'm a big advocate of 3 at the back, and I think that in Lewis/Ferguson/Dallas/McLaughlin we have the players to play the wing back roles. I'm just not convinced now is the right time with so little options available at centre back, plus I'm nearly sure our last load of games have been with a back four..?

I wouldn't go as far as to say that Hughes and McAuley are finished right now. I'd like to think that either could come in and do a job in a back 3 with Cathcart and Evans over these two games.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, PeteM said:

I'm a big advocate of 3 at the back, and I think that in Lewis/Ferguson/Dallas/McLaughlin we have the players to play the wing back roles. I'm just not convinced now is the right time with so little options available at centre back, plus I'm nearly sure our last load of games have been with a back four..?

Michael seems to be a big fan of picking his team/formation according to the opposition (at least against the stronger teams). And 3 at the back is fine if the oppo pick two strikers - two CB's to mark each one, plus one spare to cover. But if the oppo only have a single striker, you're left with one CB with nothing to do, which is too wasteful.

2 hours ago, PeteM said:

I wouldn't go as far as to say that Hughes and McAuley are finished right now. I'd like to think that either could come in and do a job in a back 3 with Cathcart and Evans over these two games.

But these two games aren't the problem, or even the following two in June. For with or without AH and Big G, we should (stress) be able to beat Belarus and Estonia.

The problem comes next season against Germany and Netherlands, when neither AH or Big G will be up to it. Seriously.

I imagine Michael will keep them around in the squad until the end of the season, before discarding them and attempting to make do with Cathcart/Evans/Flanagan/McNair, maybe even Ballard, thereafter

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, EalingGreen said:

He's been a bit more than that this season, with Sheff U fans appearing v.pleased with him, eg:

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/clever-ollie.70162/

"Permanent"? :o

The guy has 57 caps, inc as FU says, 29 of the last 30 competitive games (the other a suspension) and I can't ever remember him pulling out of the squad in suspicious circumstances before. And when his Da used to post on here, it was obvious the pride both took in his playing for NI.

And after a decade of playing for NI, you want to punish him for one withdrawal for which there may be an explanation which we don't know?

If you applied that standard to the entire squad, Michael wouldn't be able to raise a five-a-side team. 

Fairs fair, if they think he’s doing a great job this season then who am I to argue. And I’m delighted for him, hope they go up. Over the course of his career though it’s been clear he’s not Premier League standard and never particularly shone in the Championship. 

As for his exclusion, it was suggested by Michael that Ollie needed a rest. From two important qualifiers whilst (if last night is anything to go by) still turning out for his club. Now, if there’s not more to it than that, I wouldn’t be rushing to select him again. I don’t think that’s harsh at all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Must say bit  disappointed with Norwood albiet no nothing about his personal circumstances, 2 big games coming up for us and he seems to be in top form this year, even if he would have made himself available for the first game as a compromise.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
56 minutes ago, bazza said:

Fairs fair, if they think he’s doing a great job this season then who am I to argue. And I’m delighted for him, hope they go up. Over the course of his career though it’s been clear he’s not Premier League standard and never particularly shone in the Championship. 

As for his exclusion, it was suggested by Michael that Ollie needed a rest. From two important qualifiers whilst (if last night is anything to go by) still turning out for his club. Now, if there’s not more to it than that, I wouldn’t be rushing to select him again. I don’t think that’s harsh at all.

The big difference this time is if Sheff Utd go up, Norwood is a key player for them and will get his chance in the PL, he has never been this kind of key player at Fulham or Brighton, a regular yes but a key player no.

I personally believe that Ollie thinks this is his maybe one big chance to become a PL player and wants to be able to give everything for the cause and feels having a 2 week break will be beneficial to him, or maybe there is more to it with somehing in his personal life but Michael's comments don't really back that up. Whilst its disappointing i wouldn't hold it against him as he has been a brilliant servant to us for many years, if he choses however to swerve the June games when his club season is finished, i don't think i will be as forgiving.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, EalingGreen said:

The problem comes next season against Germany and Netherlands, when neither AH or Big G will be up to it. Seriously.

I imagine Michael will keep them around in the squad until the end of the season, before discarding them and attempting to make do with Cathcart/Evans/Flanagan/McNair, maybe even Ballard, thereafter

My suspicion is that their club situations will talke any decision out of Michael’s hands.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×