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3 hours ago, McFaggen said:

based on what I saw at Windsor the other night, a loss in Tallin would be horrendous. 

Yes, once was quite enough.

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6 hours ago, McFaggen said:

I'm big on putting the expectations on the downlow, but based on what I saw at Windsor the other night, a loss in Tallin would be horrendous. 

Sanchez had NI win twice against Estonia (including in Tallin)... It was Worthington who had us lose there. 

I'm not saying Sanchez lost every game against the wee sides, any more than he won every game against the big sides.

But there was a real inconsistency, sometimes even in consecutive games eg beat England 1-0 (H) then lose 3-2 to Wales (H) four days later; or beat Spain 3-2 (H) four days after losing 3-0 to a crap/one man Iceland (H). Add to that eg draws with Azerbaijan and Malta, or defeats to Canada and Norway and his record was very patchy.

Whereas since Michael got settled into the job (effectively after his first campaign), NI have played 22 qualifiers in the EC and WC, winning 14, drawing 4 and losing 4 (inc twice vs Germany).

Of course he has had some poor results in friendlies, the play-offs and Nations League etc, but when it comes to "bread and butter" games, we have become much more reliable/consistent than under either Sanchez or Worthington. 

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2 minutes ago, EalingGreen said:

I'm not saying Sanchez lost every game against the wee sides, any more than he won every game against the big sides.

But there was a real inconsistency, sometimes even in consecutive games eg beat England 1-0 (H) then lose 3-2 to Wales (H) four days later; or beat Spain 3-2 (H) four days after losing 3-0 to a crap/one man Iceland (H). Add to that eg draws with Azerbaijan and Malta, or defeats to Canada and Norway and his record was very patchy.

Whereas since Michael got settled into the job (effectively after his first campaign), NI have played 22 qualifiers in the EC and WC, winning 14, drawing 4 and losing 4 (inc twice vs Germany).

Of course he has had some poor results in friendlies, the play-offs and Nations League etc, but when it comes to "bread and butter" games, we have become much more reliable/consistent than under either Sanchez or Worthington. 

Afraid the pedant in me can't let this one go EG - it was just over a month later!

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3 minutes ago, P.McCarroll said:

Afraid the pedant in me can't let this one go EG - it was just over a month later!

You know me, Phil, I'm as big on pedantry as anyone, so can't complain. :thumbsup:

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Based on the first 45 mins against England, there isn't a whole lot to get worried about, I would be looking very much forward to playing them at a packed Windsor Park, early days but I thought they would have more about them. 

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I didn't see the first half but they've looked alright in the second half

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They've been good second half tbf, here's hoping they go on and win it. 

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Will make us look better when we bate the Nations' League champions

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Just now, CityofLisburn said:

if Holland win the cup does it help us in qualification for the euros.?

Makes no difference at all I’m afraid. 

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Not in terms of the group. Don't think it makes a difference to us who wins?

Edit. Bazza got there first.

 

 

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If we don't pass the ball to the Dutch forwards like England defenders have done it'll be wee buns against them 

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I thought the winners of Portugal v Holland would get an automatic slot at Euro 2020?

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1 minute ago, RichardM said:

I thought the winners of Portugal v Holland would get an automatic slot at Euro 2020?

and I thought if we got third then we automatically qualify maybe wishful thinking

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