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They wouldn't be fighting us for a play off spot, 2nd get you straight through.

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18 minutes ago, DerekNI said:

They wouldn't be fighting us for a play off spot, 2nd get you straight through.

So second gets you straight through but 3rd doesn't get a play-off unless you have topped your Nations League threesome? What if you come 3rd in Quali and the bottom in your table topped a Nations League threesome? They are more likely to get to the Euros even though they performed worse than you in Euro qualification?

I honestly have no clue at all. I have tried and tried, but still can't work it out. I was cheering on the Dutch against the Portuguese, thinking that winning the NL would qualify them automatically and they would then go easy on us. I was wrong in that too.

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J'hova: aye, the tournaments (Nations League and Euros Qualifying) have been linked together with the clear aim to give

a ) any temporarily off-form big cheese a 2nd chance if they cock up in quali (although plenty will still gurn, eg the Portuguese media say they shouldn't have to qualify at all)

b ) lots of relative minnows a good chance to make the finals (at least one of Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia or Georgia will definitely be there). The downside is that the 21st-24th best teams possibly won't qualify for a supposedly elite tournament, ie tough titty 😂

So yes, Portugal, Netherlands, England and Switzerland are guaranteed a play-off if they stiff (as are the 4 named in b ) above, plus Bosnia, Scotland etc.). Spain, Italy, France and Germany aren't, not that any of them bar the French possibly are likely to need it

 

 

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4 hours ago, J'hova said:

So second gets you straight through but 3rd doesn't get a play-off unless you have topped your Nations League threesome? What if you come 3rd in Quali and the bottom in your table topped a Nations League threesome? They are more likely to get to the Euros even though they performed worse than you in Euro qualification?

I honestly have no clue at all. I have tried and tried, but still can't work it out. I was cheering on the Dutch against the Portuguese, thinking that winning the NL would qualify them automatically and they would then go easy on us. I was wrong in that too.

Third gets you nothing at all, finishing in the top two is all that matters as far as these groups’ route to Euro 2020 goes.

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I think I am maybe starting to understand the Nations League route a little bit more, but my main understanding is that we need first or second in our group.

 

Interesting that the Scots are at the top of their league, so guaranteed a playoff.

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I think we are almost certainly guaranteed a play off despite finishing bottom of our group. If we do get a playoff though, there will be four teams in it (including us). 

I can see why Michael didn't place huge importance on securing a playoff because of this, but unfortunately our relegation dropped us into pot 3 and Germany's relegation dropped us into pot 2 to give us a group of death in qualification.

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So because Germany have been relegated they are going to change the rules and 'unrelegate' them?

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On 6/12/2019 at 3:47 PM, J'hova said:

So second gets you straight through but 3rd doesn't get a play-off unless you have topped your Nations League threesome? What if you come 3rd in Quali and the bottom in your table topped a Nations League threesome? They are more likely to get to the Euros even though they performed worse than you in Euro qualification?

I honestly have no clue at all. I have tried and tried, but still can't work it out. I was cheering on the Dutch against the Portuguese, thinking that winning the NL would qualify them automatically and they would then go easy on us. I was wrong in that too.

This should help?

Euro 2020 qualifying explained: why it is time to forget the Uefa Nations League... for now

Alistair Tweedale
The Telegraph Mar 21, 2019, 11:00 AM

Qualifying for the 2020 European Championship starts on Thursday.

To mark 60 years of the Euros, this one is extra special: the tournament finals will be spread across 12 countries, including England - a legacy of Michel Platini's time as Uefa president.

This new tournament format being introduced during the same 'international cycle' as the Uefa Nations League has left many people confused as to how the two are intertwined.

It really isn't that complicated, though. Here's a nice, (fairly) simple explanation as to how it is all going to work:

How does Euro 2020 qualifying work?

For the time being, forget the Nations League.

The qualifiers for the 2020 European Championship work almost entirely as they normally would: there are 10 groups (each containing five or six teams) in which every team will play each other once at home and once away. After all those matches, the top two teams in each group qualify for Euro 2020. Simple.

That accounts for 20 of the 24 teams going to the finals. We'll get to the last four a bit later.

What about the host nations?

There are 12 host nations at Euro 2020 (games will be played in London, Glasgow, Dublin, Rome, Baku, St Petersburg, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Bucharest, Bilbao, Munich and Budapest), or in other words, too many for them all to qualify automatically. This is therefore the first European Championship in 44 years where the hosts must qualify in exactly the same way as everyone else.

Wembley will host seven Euro 2020 games, including both semi-finals and the final, but England have to go through the usual qualifying process.

No more than two host nations have been put in each qualifying group, leaving open the possibility that all 12 qualify for the finals.

What about the Uefa Nations League?

This is where things get a (little bit) tricky.

Instead of the third-placed team in each qualifying group being rewarded, the play-off places are determined by performance in the Uefa Nations League.

Each team that finished top of their Nations League group is guaranteed a place in the play-offs.

If a team with a play-off spot qualifies by finishing in the top two positions in their Euro 2020 qualifying group, their spot goes to the next-best ranked team in their Nations League tier.

So, Switzerland, Portugal, Netherlands and England, who won the four groups in League A, are guaranteed at least a play-off spot. If one of those teams qualifies for Euro 2020, then their play-off spot is passed down to Belgium, the team with the fifth-best record in Nations League A. If every team in League A qualifies for Euro 2020 through the usual path, their play-off positions will cascade down to the best-ranked team in League B that hasn't already qualified or made the play-offs.

What does it all mean?

There are two main consequences of this new qualifying format:

Firstly, at least one team from every tier in the Nations League is guaranteed a spot at Euro 2020. That means one of the four League D group winners - Georgia, Macedonia, Kosovo and Belarus - will be playing at the finals.

The second main consequence is that it looks extremely difficult for League A teams to fail to make it to the finals. If any of those 12 teams fail to qualify by finishing in the top two in their group, they are very likely to go into the play-offs because most other League A teams will qualify. The remaining 'League A' play-off positions could well end up being passed down to League B teams.

When is it all happening?

The first round of Euro 2020 qualifiers are on March 21-23, 2019 - and the final games are on November 17-19, 2019. 

The play-offs will take place in March 2020.

How do the play-offs work?

The play-offs will constitute four separate paths (A, B, C, D) to Euro 2020. Each path will whittle four teams down to one via single-leg semi-finals and a final.

The winner will qualify for Euro 2020.

The Uefa Nations League finals are separate to the Euro 2020 play-offs. The winner of this summer's tournament does not qualify for Euro 2020.

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15 hours ago, richboy said:

So because Germany have been relegated they are going to change the rules and 'unrelegate' them?

Looks like it, but I like to think they don't want us dropping out of League B is what has driven it! 😀

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